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PN311 is not perceived as a friendly planet by people from the Allied Planet ??? (Here on PN55) They're mad that they lied about people from PN265 being extinct.

Might be the reason why Océane still calls PN311 "her dad's planet", despite the fact she was BORN there and grew up there ? So that people inside the simulation who read "Chloé's" novels don't get biased ?

So, it means people from PN311 did the Great Nap ? 🤯😳😰 But Kyle is from PN244 ?

Evil family ? Which family ? Kyle and his ACTUAL son ? 🙄 We know Miles has nothing to do with it, he's also "asleep" and Océane sings to him in the bed rooms sometimes.

Is Sam Kyle's son ? Like, Kyle would go after his own son's gf ?
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PostSubject: Re: A bottle in the ocean, chapter 13   A bottle in the ocean, chapter 13 EmptyWed Dec 27, 2023 7:23 am

They kidnapped everybody who was connected to the hangout simulation ??? They trapped them inside the simulation ? Is that just PN555 or other planets too ???

We kind of figured Oceane is from "wherever the bad guys are", since Kyle is in charge of the simulation. He's from PN244, but he's still on that planet, in charge of the simulation ?

But like, isn't Oceane's dad working at the hangout simulation too ? What happened to him ??? He's not part of the crew who did the Great Nap, right ? 😳 He can't be, right ?
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PostSubject: Re: A bottle in the ocean, chapter 13   A bottle in the ocean, chapter 13 EmptyWed Dec 27, 2023 7:39 am

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They kidnapped everybody who was connected to the hangout simulation ??? They trapped them inside the simulation ? Is that just PN555 or other planets too ???

We kind of figured Oceane is from "wherever the bad guys are", since Kyle is in charge of the simulation. He's from PN244, but he's still on that planet, in charge of the simulation ?

But like, isn't Oceane's dad working at the hangout simulation too ? What happened to him ??? He's not part of the crew who did the Great Nap, right ? 😳 He can't be, right ?

I'm assuming it's not just PN555, since Miles is stuck inside the simulation too. He was with Oceane's grand-parents, on another planet, so it would mean that other planet was targeted too ?

Why though ? Has he been plotting this with people from PN265 ? Did Kyle do that for them ? Is he going to free them and take over planets after planets like they used to do before the first war ???

I don't think Oceane's dad would be part of it ? At least not willingly ? When someone takes over a company, they often fire/replace the staffers, maybe he wasn't working there anymore ?

If Oceane's dad was a villain, she wouldn't talk about him in a normal way ? She would cuss at him ??? Right ? Oceane said her dad blindly trusted and believed Kyle, even over Chloe. 😬

I mean, Chloe was defo wrong and Kyle didn't do "whatever happened to Oceane", and their dad knew Chloe was wrong, so maybe he assumed she was wrong for the rest ? Like he wouldn't believe Kyle is a monster ? But also Oceane said "one would be blind to not see" (the resemblance, that Miles is the Commander's son ?) 

Chloe was deemed problematic (and then re-educated, but that's already after the Great Nap happened, right ?) because she wanted to expose Kyle. He IS a monster and did bad things. But Chloe was wrong about "whatever happened to Oceane", she was wrong to accuse Kyle, and her dad knew Kyle didn't do a thing, so it played against her and then they didn't trust any of what she said, despite the fact she was probably just spitting facts. 

I wonder if it's something that made people realize ? Like, people inside the simulation, at first, when reading the novel, they were probably like "Yep, Chloe is back at it. 🙄 " and not paying attention, but when they saw that "Chloe" was posting things she couldn't possibly know and that actually "she" dropped the false accusations towards Kyle (and talked about Adnan, Heavenside and stuff + Sam), they realized something was different and that it was actually Oceane this time, it wasn't Chloe anymore ???
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PostSubject: Re: A bottle in the ocean, chapter 13   A bottle in the ocean, chapter 13 EmptyWed Dec 27, 2023 9:11 am

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PN311 is not perceived as a friendly planet by people from the Allied Planet ??? (Here on PN55) They're mad that they lied about people from PN265 being extinct.

Might be the reason why Océane still calls PN311 "her dad's planet", despite the fact she was BORN there and grew up there ? So that people inside the simulation who read "Chloé's" novels don't get biased ?

The Allied Planets obviously do not trust Kyle or the staffers of the "historical simulation". They were not aware of Heavenside... Alicia couldn't go to PN311, because her very existence and the fact she's outside the simulation, it would make it too obvious Kyle and other people on PN311 are not the real people in charge. And that the Allied Planets do not trust them much.

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So, it means people from PN311 did the Great Nap ? 🤯😳😰 But Kyle is from PN244 ?

Evil family ? Which family ? Kyle and his ACTUAL son ? 🙄 We know Miles has nothing to do with it, he's also "asleep" and Océane sings to him in the bed rooms sometimes.

Is Sam Kyle's son ? Like, Kyle would go after his own son's gf ?

Well, whoever took over the hangout simulation did the Great Nap ? But wasn't like Kyle already in charge ? Unless he was just a staffer and then became actually the owner ? Does that make sense ? Who owns the hangout simulation ? It's not like the "historical simulation", which is kind of army guarded ? The hangout simulation, it's "just a game" ? So it's probably a private company ? How comes the staffers and people in charge are the same, though ?

Or maybe it's really Sam ? Maybe he's the one who took over the hangout simulation ? But what about Kyle, then ? Also, is Sam related to Kyle ? Or maybe "evil family" and "family business" is about Sam and Georgia ??? Maybe they took over while Kyle was chasing a political career ? Does he want to become the president of PN244 or something ? Georgia is evil. What if she is the one behind the Great Nap ?

What if once again Kyle didn't do a thing, he's just a useless narc but he actually didn't do the evil stuff ?
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PostSubject: Re: A bottle in the ocean, chapter 13   A bottle in the ocean, chapter 13 EmptyWed Dec 27, 2023 12:11 pm

WoofyWoof wrote:
BubbleTree wrote:
They kidnapped everybody who was connected to the hangout simulation ??? They trapped them inside the simulation ? Is that just PN555 or other planets too ???

We kind of figured Oceane is from "wherever the bad guys are", since Kyle is in charge of the simulation. He's from PN244, but he's still on that planet, in charge of the simulation ?

But like, isn't Oceane's dad working at the hangout simulation too ? What happened to him ??? He's not part of the crew who did the Great Nap, right ? 😳 He can't be, right ?

I'm assuming it's not just PN555, since Miles is stuck inside the simulation too. He was with Oceane's grand-parents, on another planet, so it would mean that other planet was targeted too ?

Why though ? Has he been plotting this with people from PN265 ? Did Kyle do that for them ? Is he going to free them and take over planets after planets like they used to do before the first war ???

I don't think Oceane's dad would be part of it ? At least not willingly ? When someone takes over a company, they often fire/replace the staffers, maybe he wasn't working there anymore ?

If Oceane's dad was a villain, she wouldn't talk about him in a normal way ? She would cuss at him ??? Right ? Oceane said her dad blindly trusted and believed Kyle, even over Chloe. 😬

I mean, Chloe was defo wrong and Kyle didn't do "whatever happened to Oceane", and their dad knew Chloe was wrong, so maybe he assumed she was wrong for the rest ? Like he wouldn't believe Kyle is a monster ? But also Oceane said "one would be blind to not see" (the resemblance, that Miles is the Commander's son ?) 

Chloe was deemed problematic (and then re-educated, but that's already after the Great Nap happened, right ?) because she wanted to expose Kyle. He IS a monster and did bad things. But Chloe was wrong about "whatever happened to Oceane", she was wrong to accuse Kyle, and her dad knew Kyle didn't do a thing, so it played against her and then they didn't trust any of what she said, despite the fact she was probably just spitting facts. 

I wonder if it's something that made people realize ? Like, people inside the simulation, at first, when reading the novel, they were probably like "Yep, Chloe is back at it. 🙄 " and not paying attention, but when they saw that "Chloe" was posting things she couldn't possibly know and that actually "she" dropped the false accusations towards Kyle (and talked about Adnan, Heavenside and stuff + Sam), they realized something was different and that it was actually Oceane this time, it wasn't Chloe anymore ???

The dad when he realises he messed up and should have believed Chloé.  A bottle in the ocean, chapter 13 1f62c 

The Commander when he realises Oceane is the daughter of one of the devs of the simulation portal who works for Kyle. 🥵

Kyle when he realises Oceane is not de@d. 🥵


Poor Chloé, though. It sounds like she was mistreated as she was trying to figure Océane's story, what really happened to her, and as she was trying to expose Kyle. Chloé went to her grand-parents house at some point and saw Miles ? If she was digging into what happened to Océane and apparently siding with the Commander, she knew what the Commander looks like. His picture is in history books. Océane literally said "one would be blind to not see he looks like his dad". So Océane knew Kyle was a liar. It looks like her grand-parents figured too. But the dad was still believing Kyle ? Is he dumb ? Or maybe he had to play pretend, because Kyle is his boss ?

That's why you have to be cautious when you expose stuff but you're not 100% sure who is behind it... If you get it wrong, then even if what you're saying is 100% facts and true, people might just not even listen anymore. That's probably the reason why even her dad didn't listen to Chloé ? He thought she was just "overthinking" and also he KNEW Kyle has nothing to do with "the Meltdown", so he didn't listen to ANY of what Chloé was saying ?

Do you think Chloé was still trying to expose and warn about Kyle after they were all imprisoned inside the simulation ??? Do they actually know they're inside a simulation ? Do they remember a thing ??? Like, if she kept rambling about Kyle, and everybody was like "Dude, ugh !", but then at some iteration, Océane took over and then everybody was like "Wait, what ? Adnan who ? Heavenside ? Sam ? Wait, what is she talking about ? Omg, that's what happened ? Omg, she's alive and that's not Chloé and her theories anymore. 🤯"


That being said, Océane's dad 100% for sure knew that the "historical simulation" was really a simulation portal and that people from PN265 (and PN366) were not extinct. He's not all clean either... I don't believe he would be part of the Great Nap, though. Not after his own daughter got stuck inside the simulation and they never managed to get her out, and then she "died" (as they believe). That wouldn't make sense.
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PostSubject: Re: A bottle in the ocean, chapter 13   A bottle in the ocean, chapter 13 EmptyWed Dec 27, 2023 12:23 pm

KiwiSyrup wrote:
SiropCassis wrote:
PN311 is not perceived as a friendly planet by people from the Allied Planet ??? (Here on PN55) They're mad that they lied about people from PN265 being extinct.

Might be the reason why Océane still calls PN311 "her dad's planet", despite the fact she was BORN there and grew up there ? So that people inside the simulation who read "Chloé's" novels don't get biased ?

The Allied Planets obviously do not trust Kyle or the staffers of the "historical simulation". They were not aware of Heavenside... Alicia couldn't go to PN311, because her very existence and the fact she's outside the simulation, it would make it too obvious Kyle and other people on PN311 are not the real people in charge. And that the Allied Planets do not trust them much.

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So, it means people from PN311 did the Great Nap ? 🤯😳😰 But Kyle is from PN244 ?

Evil family ? Which family ? Kyle and his ACTUAL son ? 🙄 We know Miles has nothing to do with it, he's also "asleep" and Océane sings to him in the bed rooms sometimes.

Is Sam Kyle's son ? Like, Kyle would go after his own son's gf ?

Well, whoever took over the hangout simulation did the Great Nap ? But wasn't like Kyle already in charge ? Unless he was just a staffer and then became actually the owner ? Does that make sense ? Who owns the hangout simulation ? It's not like the "historical simulation", which is kind of army guarded ? The hangout simulation, it's "just a game" ? So it's probably a private company ? How comes the staffers and people in charge are the same, though ?

Or maybe it's really Sam ? Maybe he's the one who took over the hangout simulation ? But what about Kyle, then ? Also, is Sam related to Kyle ? Or maybe "evil family" and "family business" is about Sam and Georgia ??? Maybe they took over while Kyle was chasing a political career ? Does he want to become the president of PN244 or something ? Georgia is evil. What if she is the one behind the Great Nap ?

What if once again Kyle didn't do a thing, he's just a useless narc but he actually didn't do the evil stuff ?

What if it's really Sam and Georgia ? Don't they have a daughter ? Evil family with an inbred daughter. Kyle has been in charge of the hangout simulation and the simulation portal forever. Alicia said SOMEONE NEW took over the hangout simulation. Unless Sam is Kyle's son for real ? Or maybe Kyle is still in charge but Sam took over as a CEO ? But Kyle is still the one who gets to decide ?

Does the teaser mean we're going to know who did the Great Nap in chapter 22 ???

Is the simulation guarded by the army ? It looked like anyone could hack into it and do whatever they want ? Or maybe you mean the army of the Allied Planets were the real people in charge ?

Why were the bed room of PN178 guarded ? What is this planet ? Who was Adnan, really ? Also, guarded by whom ? If it was the Allied Planets, they would have allowed him to get regenerative treatment ???
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PostSubject: Re: A bottle in the ocean, chapter 13   A bottle in the ocean, chapter 13 EmptyThu Dec 28, 2023 12:10 pm

Can we talk about Max though ? Like, he's been alone for 63 days and he's in shock, but he's mad at the internet company and basically BLAMES them for him still being there ??? As opposed to thankful he wasn't taken ? 😳
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Can we talk about Max though ? Like, he's been alone for 63 days and he's in shock, but he's mad at the internet company and basically BLAMES them for him still being there ??? As opposed to thankful he wasn't taken ? 😳

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Being alone + your loved one is gone, it makes you think differently and say mean things sometimes... It's a feeling you don't want to fully comprehend...
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I'm not surprised PN311 is not considered a friendly planet, especially after the New War. Kyle, who's in charge of the simulation, is literally a traitor... The "real people in charge" don't trust them either.

So, we have 2 people who are free, and they were not connected, literally no connection where they were when the Great Nap happened. So it confirms it's linked with the hangout simulation and the new people who took over it ?
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So, we have 2 people who are free, and they were not connected, literally no connection where they were when the Great Nap happened. So it confirms it's linked with the hangout simulation and the new people who took over it ?

It seems so.
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PostSubject: Re: A bottle in the ocean, chapter 13   A bottle in the ocean, chapter 13 EmptyFri Dec 29, 2023 5:57 am

SiropCitron wrote:
WoofyWoof wrote:
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They kidnapped everybody who was connected to the hangout simulation ??? They trapped them inside the simulation ? Is that just PN555 or other planets too ???

We kind of figured Oceane is from "wherever the bad guys are", since Kyle is in charge of the simulation. He's from PN244, but he's still on that planet, in charge of the simulation ?

But like, isn't Oceane's dad working at the hangout simulation too ? What happened to him ??? He's not part of the crew who did the Great Nap, right ? 😳 He can't be, right ?

I'm assuming it's not just PN555, since Miles is stuck inside the simulation too. He was with Oceane's grand-parents, on another planet, so it would mean that other planet was targeted too ?

Why though ? Has he been plotting this with people from PN265 ? Did Kyle do that for them ? Is he going to free them and take over planets after planets like they used to do before the first war ???

I don't think Oceane's dad would be part of it ? At least not willingly ? When someone takes over a company, they often fire/replace the staffers, maybe he wasn't working there anymore ?

If Oceane's dad was a villain, she wouldn't talk about him in a normal way ? She would cuss at him ??? Right ? Oceane said her dad blindly trusted and believed Kyle, even over Chloe. 😬

I mean, Chloe was defo wrong and Kyle didn't do "whatever happened to Oceane", and their dad knew Chloe was wrong, so maybe he assumed she was wrong for the rest ? Like he wouldn't believe Kyle is a monster ? But also Oceane said "one would be blind to not see" (the resemblance, that Miles is the Commander's son ?) 

Chloe was deemed problematic (and then re-educated, but that's already after the Great Nap happened, right ?) because she wanted to expose Kyle. He IS a monster and did bad things. But Chloe was wrong about "whatever happened to Oceane", she was wrong to accuse Kyle, and her dad knew Kyle didn't do a thing, so it played against her and then they didn't trust any of what she said, despite the fact she was probably just spitting facts. 

I wonder if it's something that made people realize ? Like, people inside the simulation, at first, when reading the novel, they were probably like "Yep, Chloe is back at it. 🙄 " and not paying attention, but when they saw that "Chloe" was posting things she couldn't possibly know and that actually "she" dropped the false accusations towards Kyle (and talked about Adnan, Heavenside and stuff + Sam), they realized something was different and that it was actually Oceane this time, it wasn't Chloe anymore ???

The dad when he realises he messed up and should have believed Chloé.  A bottle in the ocean, chapter 13 1f62c 

The Commander when he realises Oceane is the daughter of one of the devs of the simulation portal who works for Kyle. 🥵

Kyle when he realises Oceane is not de@d. 🥵


Poor Chloé, though. It sounds like she was mistreated as she was trying to figure Océane's story, what really happened to her, and as she was trying to expose Kyle. Chloé went to her grand-parents house at some point and saw Miles ? If she was digging into what happened to Océane and apparently siding with the Commander, she knew what the Commander looks like. His picture is in history books. Océane literally said "one would be blind to not see he looks like his dad". So Océane knew Kyle was a liar. It looks like her grand-parents figured too. But the dad was still believing Kyle ? Is he dumb ? Or maybe he had to play pretend, because Kyle is his boss ?

That's why you have to be cautious when you expose stuff but you're not 100% sure who is behind it... If you get it wrong, then even if what you're saying is 100% facts and true, people might just not even listen anymore. That's probably the reason why even her dad didn't listen to Chloé ? He thought she was just "overthinking" and also he KNEW Kyle has nothing to do with "the Meltdown", so he didn't listen to ANY of what Chloé was saying ?

Do you think Chloé was still trying to expose and warn about Kyle after they were all imprisoned inside the simulation ??? Do they actually know they're inside a simulation ? Do they remember a thing ??? Like, if she kept rambling about Kyle, and everybody was like "Dude, ugh !", but then at some iteration, Océane took over and then everybody was like "Wait, what ? Adnan who ? Heavenside ? Sam ? Wait, what is she talking about ? Omg, that's what happened ? Omg, she's alive and that's not Chloé and her theories anymore. 🤯"


That being said, Océane's dad 100% for sure knew that the "historical simulation" was really a simulation portal and that people from PN265 (and PN366) were not extinct. He's not all clean either... I don't believe he would be part of the Great Nap, though. Not after his own daughter got stuck inside the simulation and they never managed to get her out, and then she "died" (as they believe). That wouldn't make sense.


Everybody is assuming Chloe was 100% wrong when accusing Kyle, but what if she was not wrong to blame him, though ?

We know now that the simulation didn't stop because of the Meltdown, it stopped because the guy from the real servers, Amon, forced stopped it. If he hadn't forced stopped it, Oceane would be de@d.

What about the simulation portal and the staffers of PN311 ? Kyle is supposed to be in charge and decide. Why didn't he decide to force stop the simulation as the Meltdown was going on ? Unless he's not allowed or able to do so, I would blame him big time too tbh.
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Everybody is assuming Chloe was 100% wrong when accusing Kyle, but what if she was not wrong to blame him, though ?

We know now that the simulation didn't stop because of the Meltdown, it stopped because the guy from the real servers, Amon, forced stopped it. If he hadn't forced stopped it, Oceane would be de@d.

What about the simulation portal and the staffers of PN311 ? Kyle is supposed to be in charge and decide. Why didn't he decide to force stop the simulation as the Meltdown was going on ? Unless he's not allowed or able to do so, I would blame him big time too tbh.

It wouldn't make sense for Kyle to not want to force stop the simulation, as it would set free people from PN265, he's literally their ally. Or maybe he didn't know that ? A lot of people from PN265 died during the Meltdown. I don't know, it wouldn't make sense for Kyle to just do nothing and let Oceane die, when it would be the perfect excuse to free his allies. Kyle probably doesn't have the ability to force stop the simulation ?
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